Tuesday, March 16, 2010

"Breaking Free" from Beth Moore and Her "Try Hard" Theology

by Lisa Nunley, guest writer

Scroll down and you will find just a few emails I have gotten in the past 4 years (and am still getting) since I came out of the closet and confessed why I am not a Beth Moore fan anymore. These emails are from her current fan club. I will share 3 scary ones and 3 somewhat tame ones. Though, mind you, I have received well-over 50 and the majority would end up in the more-scary-than-not category. Also consider that these are professing Christian women who think they have been greatly changed under Beth Moore's teaching. I will begin with her freakish fans, of which I have had to replace the expletives with representative symbols because I just can't bring myself to post those words. Apparently if I were "culturally relevant" I would leave them in as is.
Oh... and my responses to these emails are point-by-point in italicized blue because it is such a nice color.
A
nd the links turn pretty pink. The links will lead you to other articles that I recommend you read.

I would like to begin with what I like about Beth Moore. She has a very bubbly, engaging personality. She is a beautiful, gifted speaker and she is what I consider "almost right" in her theology... which is a very dangerous place to be.

As I have written on a friend's post on Beth Moore: ...I have been through several Beth Moore studies, but being that it is more important to be a Berean and love Jesus more than any teacher, preacher, friend, family member, etc., we must understand, as I often say, that no one is above being held accountable. Even sweet Beth Moore must be held accountable, as should you, me, ...and every Christian. She is spiraling ever downward in her teaching [that is] in grievous error. It is teaching that I personally can account to as some of the worst of the “almost right” which makes it more on the sheep in wolf's clothing type. It is the “almost-right” teaching that Christians are especially warned to be on Guard against in God’s holy Word of Truth.
(Read Galatians 1:6-10)

She has some truth thrown in there with her teaching which may appear to give it credibility. ...be on guard. I plead with you to sincerely pray about this before the throne of grace and search the Scriptures as a Berean with a sincere heart to know God’s Truth as He has revealed and not how Beth has revealed, in her sweet, engagingly dynamic almost-true teaching style.


Please note that though I consider her a gifted speaker, I am very concerned about her teaching on many levels. And I am not the only one...
as there are more and more women who have been through many of her studies that are coming out of the closet expressing deep concern about her teaching. Here's the sad thing. So many more are mortified at saying anything because Beth Moore's fans are actually kinda... scary...

The scary Beth Moore fan club emails: (Notice: I DON'T comment on these emails)
<1.> You $%#@!!! HOW DARE YOU JUDGE BETH MOORE!!! She changed my life and here you sit on your self-appointed @#$% throne and JUDGE HER!!! I pray your life is miserable you SICK @#@%!!! That your brain lesions from your MS take over your pea-sized brain and you die soon so you will SHUT THE #@%$# UP!!!

<2.> WHY, WHY, WHY would you hurt Beth Moore? Do you know what she’s been through? Do you have any clue about anything? Obviously you have no idea how to live what you {think} you are. A Christian? I don’t think so. Here’s what I think you are %$# %$#%$#& %$# ###$#&$#*^%$ %$#%$*^%&$ #^%^ and I have no doubt you are going straight to hell.
Here’s the thing. You think you know more than Beth Moore? HAHAHAHA!!! That makes me laugh. You know NOTHING!!! NOTHING!!!! You are filled with a demon. HOW DARE YOU say ANYTHING about Beth Moore. SHAME ON YOU!!!!

<3.> Okay, so I just can't post anymore of these... I can't. Though I will share that I have been told by some of her fans that my family would be better off without me as I have also been "hexed" several times for Beth Moore's sake. I think you get the picture. Why am I the target of all this "love" from so many of her fans? I think it is because of what happens when you google "Beth Moore Blog" or "More on Beth Moore")
So the next group is not so scary, but they definitely miss the mark on sound doctrine... probably because they are under Beth Moore's teaching.
Before I share more emails, I want to highlight
just a few concerns in Beth Moore's teaching:

a. She teaches generational bondage/ sin (both in "Breaking Free" and "Believing God") of which I address here: Generational Curses: Is This Belief Biblical?

b. She has a mystical/ psychological approach to sin issues instead of a Biblical one as she claims that God reveals himself and his purposes in many ways, including emotions, and mystical experiences. (sounds like a roller coaster ride of self-sustained religion)


c. She openly endorses contemplative prayer in the "Be Still" DVD where she encourages emptying your mind. This type of prayer is used by Eastern Religions and Catholic Mystics not based on Scripture and running acceptably rampant as the norm in way too many "Christian" churches. Scripture is clear that when we meditate on God's Word, we do not empty it, but fill it with His truth. (Joshua 1:8; Psalm 1:2; Psalm 77:12; Psalm 119:15, 23, 27, 48, 78, 97, 99, 148; Psalm 143:5; Psalm 145:5)


d. She is a pragmatist which essentially makes all truth relative as she advocates the sweeping in of self-help, me-centered, positive thinking, and avoidance of offending any biblical doctrine as God's Word is twisted to meet the individuals needs, rather than preached without compromise.


e. Beth Moore teaches that knowing God is experiential at the expense of sound doctrine. I think she may really want to be theological, but ends up explaining theological truths away with a shallow don't let theology and doctrine confuse you when you can figure it out with God for yourself in a way that works for you. (okay, so this point is similar to the last one)


f. Beth actually gives some great advice... but it gets severely clouded in special revelations and horrendous hermeneutics (aka eisegesis) which leads to more and more misuses of Scripture.


g. In her "encouragement" to break free, she actually puts you in further legalistic bondage with her approach. Hmmm. Didn't Christ come to set us free from legalistic, Pharisaical bondage? (Matthew 12:1-21)


h.
Beth actually says that Jesus “thinks it will be heaven because you will be there.” and then speaks the line of a song, “When He was on the Cross, I was on his mind.” ...So, if you end up in hell, is heaven no longer heaven to Jesus? (That just seems utterly blasphemous to me)


i.
Oh, and she teaches men. (But, as you can see above in "a" thru "h", this is actually not the one and only concern and might even somewhat pale in comparison to the other stuff.)
The somewhat tame Beth Moore fan club emails: (Notice: I DO comment and provide links on these emails)

<1.> I think you do millions of women a great disservice with your negative remarks about Beth Moore. You seem to think you can stand in judgment of not only her, but also her pastors and husband - amazing! You need to understand that the New Testament was written in Greek and the English language is not able to always, totally accurately, translate words and passages. I Timothy 2:12 is a perfect example of trying to tidy-up the Greek into a short English sentence - and it's just impossible to do. It doesn't actually say (in Greek) that women should NEVER teach men, it actually says something more like 'a married woman should not try to assert herself so that it appears that she is trying to be the teacher of her husband and have authority over him'. She is to do nothing to usurp her husband's position (as head of the marriage/couple) or embarrass him.
Consider reading this: A Call to Discernment and On Women's Ordination

Obviously, there are some slightly varying opinions of this, but I believe that is for God to sort out.
I do know that He is not a God of confusion or division and it really bothers me when one Christian - or one Christian church - stands in judgement of another AND advertises it on a website!

Consider reading why God's truth is knowable HERE
I agree with you regarding confusion and division. Read THIS by Spurgeon, as well as: Do We Really Need to Wage War Against False Doctrine?

Beth Moore has an amazing love for and belief in Jesus Christ, Holy Spirit and God the Father; she has reached so many for the eternal kingdom and her faith is counted as righteousness.
Please consider that only God can truly determine whose faith is "counted as righteousness" and how many she has truly reached for the eternal kingdom and how many she has actually led down the path of false assurance roller-coaster ride of self-sustained religion


(next day, same gal above sent another email)

...If women are being saved and growing in Christ, is that not evidence, in all likelihood, of His hand in Beth Moore's ministry?
Ummmmm. No. Wish it was
.


(I personally know 2 women who have been led to Christ beacuse of being in a Beth Moore study.)
You find something about Beth Moore that YOU believe is not in accordance with Scripture and you would disregard her entire ministry? That's the old ''baby with the bath water mentality'! You're saying that all the Biblical truths that I and millions of others have learned and have had come alive for us in greater, deeper, more meaningful ways are all garbage because a few men have dared to sit in on Mrs. Moore's Sunday School class???
And now I pray that the Lord will lead them to a loving and Biblically solid church with sound teaching... and I dare say that it is God that draws His children to Himself in His time through the preaching of the Gospel of His Son.
Go back and read my concerns "a" thru "i" above.

Somehow I'm pretty sure God doesn't see it that way!
"His ways are not our ways and His thoughts are not our thoughts"



Again, others who have studied scripture - and it's Greek parentage - far beyond what you and I have, believe that the scripture in question refers to a married woman not usurping her husband's authority, embarrassing him, etc. With the husband's permisson a woman IS allowed to speak and teach. Other men have the option to listen or not. Of course the woman is to be discreet and modest as she does this.
I have already provided you a link in the first email you sent. Ummmm... please read it. It is quite thorough and spot on.


Do you cover your head every time you go to church? Do you braid your or your daughter's hair? Do you wear pearls or other jewelry? I'm sure I already know the answer to these questions, yet they are scripturally off-limits to the women of Paul's day. (And again, knowing the Greek translation would probably be clarifying and beneficial.) My point is that some things/actions were off-limits because of local customs and because they would be distracting and divisive - but that may not be the case today.
Consider reading this entire site, which includes
Evangelical Feminism and Biblical Truth



Matthew 7:5 and John 8:7 seem to be excellent, God-breathed words to live by, as they were spoken by Jesus himself. I know I need to be reminded.
I agree. Those are excellent Scriptures that we all have to be reminded of often. 

<2.> i got your email due to your blog about beth moore.
now i know maybe i shouldnt be sending this email, but that beth moore blog got me thinking. beth moore loves to share the word of the Lord.
now shouldnt we be moore concerned about someone speaking untrue things about Him?

I would love it if she would learn things like exegesis and sound doctrine so that uncompromising, Biblical teaching will permeate her gift for speaking.
The answer to your question is "yes, we should be concerned about someone speaking untrue things about Him. . That is why I am writing this. I am very concerned about Beth Moore teaching untrue things.


what if someone is teaching false facts? even
talking people out of christianity?
Lets go even further.. what about starvation, sex traders, abortions?

True saving faith Christians cannot be talked out of Christianity. All those blatant sins you have listed are horrendous. But then, before God, sin is sin.

i feel like there are so much more
things that are to our concerns in this world.
yes you are right it does say in the bible about women not preaching to men. WHAT ABOUT JUDGING OTHERS?

Except that the God of the Bible warns us over and over and over in the Bible about false teachers and wolves in sheep's clothing, so it doesn't seem like we should gloss over it.
There is unrighteous judgment and discerning righteous judgment and here is something you need to read, though I have already linked it:
But here I go again

i think you might be getting this belief of yours out
of hate.
i dont know where you stand now. i know that blog was a long time ago.
but be careful on your website. people might be looking for
answers on the internet and find a blog from you,
an amazing God loving strong woman, and how does that look that you are judging speakers out there serving Him?

If you mean hatred of things evil, which includes false teaching... yes. If you mean hatred of Beth Moore, no.
Where do I stand? Besides the fact that I am sitting, my concerns are not only the same, they have grown!
If people are looking for answers on the internet and end up on my blog, perhaps
so they might actually read a post about the uncompromising Gospel.
If I said nothing and buried my head in the sand, not caring about people falling prey to this teaching, how would that look?
As I have already written here, no one is above being held accountable... Not me, you, Beth Moore, my best friend, favorite preacher... no one.

i dont really want an email back.
ill be praying for you.

Okay. So I will address this publicly. and please remember, God doesn't turn His ear to hear certain prayers

<3.> This is regarding your post about Beth Moore (and female teachers in general)
I don't comment so much on this one because I will be merely repeating myself over and over with the same comments and links... so... see above... though this one seems to slam me personally more and yet claim not to be angry. Another emotional roller coaster ride.

I do not understand this, for a rebuke or reproof the statements were too harsh...following your trail of reasoning..should she be stopped from sharing the word? Should her ministry be stopped as well due to the fact that her messages (and the fact that she teaches men) were supposedly flawed? I don't understand...So should I listen to you then cuz you seem to have all the correct theology and flawless interpretation of the word? My heart is really sore, no wonder Jesus prayed for unity we are Christians but we are just so different...What can you say about the female missionary who taught in our village? Is that heresy as well? Should we not believe in her words cuz she's a woman? I'll be honest, you really made me cry, I uphold Christ as our only source (don't get me wrong) but it was Beth Moore whom God has used to reach out to my suicidal atheistic sister, she is now serving the Lord in our church... how can a bad tree bear such good fruits? (I'm really crying as I type this)...there's only one thing that I know of, in our villages...for those people who live in the mountains being a Calvinist or Armenian doesn't matter...what matters is our relationship with Jesus (you all have no idea what it is like) I am just wondering, since the theological intricacies of biblical concepts were not so much preached to local men in the islands...does that make them less acceptable to God and make you all more? (not to mention we have female teachers here)
I am not really angry, I was just hurt to see that those who have not really experienced reaching out to other people can say such terrible things. That a person who have not as much lifted a finger to share the word of God outside their own safe place can speak such intense words.
Please listen to
What Does the Bible Say a Good Work Is? and also to What is the Biblical Definition of a Good Work?

I don't know but as we say here...ang Diyos ang maghuhusga sa iyo at sa lahat ng iyong mga gawa... God will be the ultimate judge...
"Every lofty thought lifted up against Christ has to be torn down and in its place there has to be obedience to the truth of God in Christ revealed in Scripture. So spiritual war is a battle for the mind. It is a battle between truth and error. It calls for discernment."-JMac

This is not about being holier than thou. This is about sincere grievous concern over false teaching from someone very popular, personable and persuasive. Let me plead with my Christian brothers and sisters to not fall back on easy phrases like "that shalt not judge" or "God will be the judge" and do the scriptural thing and hold everything up to scripture as a Berean.

"Rather, we have renounced secret and shameful ways; we do not use deception, nor do we distort the word of God. On the contrary, by setting forth the truth plainly we commend ourselves to every man's conscience in the sight of God." 2 Corinthians 4:2




 Additional Resources 

Beth Moore's Dangerous Bible Twisting

Evangelical Feminism and Biblical Truth


32 comments:

  1. Excellent article, Lisa. Absolutely spot on. I'm in agreement 100%. I recently heard Beth Moore teaching on Life Today. In continually searching the Scriptures and not inclined to be a "lazy Christian," it didn't me take long to know she was ripping verses (or more like *a* verse) from the context and then 'spiritualizing' it to try to 'apply' it to the point she was trying to make. No exegesis at all.

    You know, it grieves my heart that a professing believer would in any way use your disease against you. I'm inclined to think those emails did not come from a truly regenerated person.

    Keep up the good work, Lisa!

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  2. Hey Gayla... long time since I have gotten to interact with you on the blogosphere. So good to re-connect with you here and on facebook!

    Hard stuff here. I am actually thankful none of the BM fans have come out to comment. I actually dreaded going public with this post, but I have also found more and more women are waking up and "breaking free" from Beth Moore's teaching.

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  3. I am pleased to see more skepticism regarding the teachings of Beth Moore. I first heard of her at the Baptist Church I attend. I signed up for the class, looking forward to learning more about God.
    There were 22 women at the first session. We sat and watched a DVD session and then were to do homework from the workbook we had purchased (of course).
    I did go home and do the homework and never attended another class. The study on Daniel was so inundated with Beth's personal stories, opinions and random thoughts, that it distracted from the Scripture in a huge way.
    I went through the workbook at home, without the weekly video, and I noticed how much I, me and my were used throughout the text of her material. I think that is at the crux of her prolematic teaching.
    I see blogs all the time when the women write "Beth Moore says...." What does SCRIPTURE say, would be my question.
    I discussed this with my Pastor ( who preaches from the Bible every week, verse by verse) and he saw nothing amiss with her teaching.
    Don't give up your convictions on this issue. I know we are out-numbered, but perhaps, like most fads, she will recede soon....

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  4. Joyce,
    Thank you for taking the time to comment. I do see more and more skepticism from those who use to be die-hard fans of Beth Moore's material. What is difficult to communicate to the women that quote Beth Moore's pragmatic words more readily than God's holy Word of non-relative truth is that they have put this dear and beautiful woman on a pedestal. Their hearts are endeared to her so much, that they are failing to discern this ever-increasing, red-flag-rampant pragmatism that leads them only to "try harder."
    I hear story after story of women who have, for a time after going through the "breaking free" study, been greatly encouraged and they seem to have leaps in their spiritual growth... that end up being fleeting because the focus is off of what Christ has accomplished for them and too much on what they can accomplish for Christ. Can you hear the roller coaster ride of self sustained religion? It cannot be maintained.
    The red flags are there, bright as a flashing beacon, and yet the rose colored glasses are too often shielding these women from comprehending the dangers they are facing as they fall prey to this "almost right" teaching.
    I see too many of these women ready and willing to defend Beth Moore and yet what about defending God's Word? His holy Name?
    My longing is to see these women, even if it is just a remnant, become Bereans for the sake of defending God's Word and not Beth Moore's word.
    Again, thank you for commenting.
    Press on in His truth and His love for His glory and remember to be "teachable but not tossable" for the sake of His holy Name.

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  5. Got an email from one of the women I have quoted here. (#1 of the "milder" BM fans) She knows about this post, as I sent her an email to inform her and the other "milder" BM fans. Though, I prefer to stay far away from the seemingly possessed ones.

    Here are my answers to her questions, as I thought you all might be interested:
    Dear S.,
    Bottomline, it doesn't matter what I believe and don't believe so much as you becoming a Berean.

    1. What if men, unknown to you, sat behind a curtain to listen to you speak?
    ***Would I be aware of this?***

    2. Are you saying that men have never and will never have anything to learn, spiritually, from women?
    ***No, that is not at all what I am saying. Women are not stupid doormats.***

    3. So would it be improper - a sin, in fact - for a man to ever say "I have learned so much about Jesus from my wife because she knew Him before I did"?
    ***Of course not.***

    4. Could she inpart her faith to him only if he asked?
    ***No. We all impart our faith both in word and action. Or we should. If she only got to do this with permission, she would be an immobile statue.***

    5. And in a related I Tim. 2 vein: I'm still interested in your response to my inquiry about wearing gold, pearls, braided hair, (or expensive clothes, living in a large and well-appointed home, etc.).
    ***On a practical level: I live in what some might consider a well-appointed home that we prayerfully and joyfully use as a ministry home. In other words, we don't hoard what God has given. But we open our home readily for Bible studies, fellowship with our church family, hurting friends, missionaries on furlow, sign language classes and the like, etc. because it is an genuine honor.
    Gold doesn't look good on me, so I wear silver.
    I love pearls, but I never buy the real ones because I'm not a big jewelry lover as I find it personally cumbersome. Though, I do wear jewelry.
    And, when I go hiking or skiing, I braid my hair. It keeps it out of my eyes and mouth. Hair doesn't taste good.***

    Now consider reading this: http://www.cbmw.org/Evangelical-Feminism-and-Biblical-Truth/
    It will help you be a Berean.


    Be teachable but not tossable,
    Lisa

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  6. Hi Lisa, it's good to reconnect with you too - such a strong lady in the Lord. :)

    The email questions. ::sigh:: They are silly and appear to be nothing more than distractions from having to actually face (and study) the truth of the matter for her/them selves.

    Regarding B.M. (as with so many other gifted communicators), it is so much about the 'cult of personality' rather than the content of the message.

    I have a friend who basically feels the same way about Joyce Meyer. That both of these women are gifted speakers and may even espouse Truth at times, AND that someone may have come to faith in Christ b/c of something they taught does NOT negate the fact that they are walking in disobedience to the clear instruction to not be in authority over/teach men. Period.

    So disheartening.

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  7. I can't believe some of the responses you have received with respect to Beth Moore. Thanks for providing links to some of the concerns you have with Beth Moore's teachings. I look forward to taking a closer look at these issues.

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  8. Thank you for sharing your concerns about Beth Moore, whose teaching seems devoid of grace. In other words, does not present the gospel (the entirety of the redemptive work of Christ and how that applies in our daily lives) but only tells us to try harder and harder.

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  9. Well, I just tried to make the "volley ball" match up there more readable. I hope that helps.

    Press on in HIS truth and HIS love for HIS glory.
    Lisa

    "Dear friends, while I was making every effort to write you about our common salvation, I felt the necessity to write to you appealing that you contend earnestly for the faith which was once for all handed down to the saints."-Jude 3

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  10. Just got this email from a friend of mine. She wrote:

    Lisa, I appreciate the stand you are taking with Beth Moore & her teaching. I have been concerned for years...something in my spirit gave me a "red flag"... I remember doing one of Beth Moore's first studies & kept thinking "BUT this isn't what the scripture is saying...." and I struggled to even complete the lessons. Having been a Precept student and teaching leader for years prior, I had learned how to "rightly divide the Word of God" and it seemed to me that she wasn't doing that. Her charisma is what attracts the young women today so they don't really question how she is twisting God's Word. They think she is "cute" and "yuppie" with a little bit of spirituality thrown in. --- You have finally validated my concerns.

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  11. Oh Lisa, what a great email! Seems as though some women have been a little afraid to speak out concerning Beth Moore. I believe you have greatly helped many women!

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  12. Thanks for commenting and leaving a link to this blog on Southern Baptist Girl. I am really very encouraged after reading this. Keep it up, Lisa! I am hoping that my blog will help women learn how to read a book with discernment; it's not just about Beth Moore.

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  13. A friend linked me here because she thought I'd be interested in your Beth Moore discussion.

    I have addressed Moore in several posts on my blog, and I have also gotten lots of hate e-mail for exposing her false teachings. I posted milder comments and responded to them, and then I quit posting those that only attack.

    Also, if you go to www.pfo.org they have four journals in which they've done examinations of Moore's teachings. I highly recommend acquiring this collection.

    I applaud you for bringing out the issue and encouraging discernment.

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  14. Well, apparently I am not out to win any popularity contests. That being said, this is not fun for me. But, the overwhelming longing to see women become more discerning, like Bereans, overrides the yuck of it all.
    Thank you for taking the time to leave comments.

    Be Teachable but not Tossable,
    Lisa

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  15. I can't thank you enough for this Post. My husband attended Bible College 4 years ago and I was invited to a ladies Bible Study. They were Studying something Beth Moore,via DVD.I have to be honest, she gave me the creeps. (Sorry to be so blunt,) but I could not go back, and trying to explain to the college teachers wives why I was not going back,labeled me a trouble maker.I cried a lot that year, It's so disturbing to me that Christian women have to depend on other women to spoon feed then their version of what Scripture tells them.Have we become so conformed to this world that we need to follow those who set themselves up to be the wise feminine voice of god in this age. What astounds me is the well known young reformed pastors wives who are being sucked in by Beth Moores celebrity stateus

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  16. Thank you, thank you, thank you! I had never been exposed to Beth Moore before this year. I have never been into the whole Christian celebrity thing.

    The ladies at our church participated in BM's recent simulcast, So Long, Insecurity, and subsequently began Jesus The One And Only. We are on week 3, and I just kept feeling more and more uneasy without the words to explain why. I started pooring over the internet to see if there was anyone else out there who feels the same. Thank you for putting my gut feelings into words so that I can explain them to my husband in a way he can understand. He is our Elder of Education, and if I can pursuade him, our church women will not do any more BM studies. I have ordered the pfo quarterlies so that he can read through them.

    You have given me the courage to lead a 'real' women's Bible study in which we will bring together Study Bibles, Commentaries, and Greek and Hebrew dictionaries and ACTUALLY study the BIBLE!

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  17. Wow...not sure how I ran into this site..but all I can say is it is true small minds talk about people and shame on any of the fans that replied with such hatred. There are no words to describe how sad all of this is. All I can say is spend less time ripping up others and more time teaching what it is you believe and build your faith up and be ready for the next person that comes along to build herself up by ripping you up. It's all pretty small minded and sad and obviously a lot of time wasted on time that could have been better spent in God's word. God gives us discernment - learn what's good throw out the bones and move on. Do not harm people as you may actually intended or not be bearing false witness against another. My heart breaks to see this. Swords down - go be the change you want to see.

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  18. I went to Google about 30 minutes ago, typed in Beth Moore's name, and stumbled on your blog. I applaud and support your convictions that we should rely on God's Word alone as the one and only source of Truth. Beth Moore shares the same conviction, pointing us to Christ in this excerpt from "Praying God's Word": "The last thing I want to do is set myself up as any kind of proper example. Remember, our objective here is to learn not to allow anything or anyone to be exalted in our minds but Christ."

    Have you contacted Beth Moore and shared your concerns with her? While I do not believe Beth Moore is one of them, I do agree that there are misguided leaders in the Christian community and could list 4 or 5 names right now. Even so, I think the nature of this post has potentially detrimental effects. I know that people hold tightly to their beliefs and so I don't know if my assertions will make any difference, but please consider the potential message your blog is sending to an unbeliever. I have witnessed arguments between believers in the presence of unbelievers that ultimately turned the unbeliever away. I understand that you don't agree with everything Beth is about and I know you want to encourage others to examine man's words against God's Word. I guess the question is - does the potential gain outweigh the potential loss this post creates?

    I believe you can convey your message without shooting her down and targeting her perceived errors. James 3:1-2 says, "Not many of you should presume to be teachers, my brothers, because you know that we who teach will be judged more strictly. We all stumble in many ways. If anyone is never at fault in what he says, he is a perfect man, able to keep his whole body in check." Yes, Christians in leadership positions are held to a higher accountability; however, I do believe God is using Beth Moore's talents to minister to believers and unbelievers alike. I obviously support Beth Moore and have grown as a Christian through God's work in her teaching. Perceived faults and all, I do believe He has called her to a teaching ministry and has achieved good through the use of a broken, sinful vessel. I cannot begin to imagine the warfare and pain Christian leaders endure in their faithfulness to God's calling on their lives.

    I would have emailed you instead of posting this publicly, but I could not find a way to do so. I apologize if I have been ungracious or lacking tact in addressing my concerns - that has not been my intent. Just please consider the possibility of tossing aside the significant and trivial matters (i.e., teaching to men) and look instead for ways to post your convictions in a way that edifies other brothers and sisters in Christ. "Givegrace" - I agree wholeheartedly.

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  19. I could not have expressed my views any better than Larry (above). You need to directly address Beth Moore if you have concerns. Also, what is your background for teaching TRUTH? That should be posted first and foremost on this page, so that we know who we are listening to.
    I am deeply disappointed that you have made this public.

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  20. This post was written by a guest writer, and yes, I recognize that this topic is controversial. I'll be revisiting the topic of Beth Moore in an upcoming post. My view, like our guest writer, is that the church should be very concerned about Beth Moore and her writings, as her teaching is beginning to go badly off track, and she is influencing millions of women.

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  21. Amen Sola sisters OR WHOEVER WROTE THIS POST... stand firm in the truth of our Lord JESUS CHRIST!

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  22. Sola Sister - you said it right there she in Jesus name is influencing millions of women around the world with her gift of the word. Im sadened that you will blog about your own sister making it harder for the unbelivers to see Jesus is the way the truth and the light and not a relgious God. Bless you though looking forward to hearing and seeing more of Beth Moore. Love you Bless Bless!

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  23. I just started the "Breaking Free" BM study and wanted to get more info on her, hence, I found your blog. Everyone I know is doing her studies. Can someone enlighten me as to what I need to be aware of regarding the breaking free study before I get into it? I don't have time to sift through all the info on her teachings right now and just need specifics re: this particular one. Thanks!

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  24. Anonymous - A good program on some of the problems with Beth Moore's teaching can be linked to here:

    http://www.extremetheology.com/2010/03/beth-moores-dangerous-bible-twisting.html

    Beth Moore also promoted contemplative prayer (a Roman Catholic practice that draws on monastic mysticism) on the "Be Still" video produced several years ago:

    http://www.erwm.com/BobDeWaay5.htm

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  25. I now understand the attacks and vitriol used against you. My wife had contacted you about Beth Moore, we used some of the various links in an email to our church, explaining "some" problems with BM, and low and behold not only was the email torn to shreds on how I plagiarized every point, then how all the "blogger's" just attacked "poor" BM, - she is a "Christian woman" you know.

    What bothered me more was the fact you all were attacked for no other propose than disparage the email and all bloggers on the internet.

    Now I feel good to be named among you all anti BM crowd.

    thanks for all your research and work.

    Jim and Pat OKC

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  26. Thanks for the encouragement Jim. Beth Moore has actually gone even further afield that I ever dreamed she would by parterning recently with Word of Faith teacher Priscilla Shirer.

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  27. Eugene DanielsJan 10, 2011 11:25 AM

    My wife is willing to start looking for a new church however, she still wants to attend the BM "Breaking Free" a 10 week ____ study (sorry I omitted the word Bible, as I can't use it here, indoctrination is the first word that pops into my mind when looking at this alleged study)
    I started taking a close look at how this study begins, having the ladies start out reading Isaiah 61:1-3
    "The Spirit of the Sovereign LORD is on me,
    because the LORD has anointed me
    to proclaim good news to the poor.
    He has sent me to bind up the brokenhearted,
    to proclaim freedom for the captives
    and release from darkness for the prisoners,
    to proclaim the year of the LORD’s favor
    and the day of vengeance of our God,
    to comfort all who mourn,
    and provide for those who grieve in Zion—
    to bestow on them a crown of beauty
    instead of ashes,
    the oil of joy
    instead of mourning,
    and a garment of praise
    instead of a spirit of despair.
    They will be called oaks of righteousness,
    a planting of the LORD
    for the display of his splendor."

    Beth makes this statement before we take this process forward, we'll take it backwards and capture a fascinating parallel for freedom in Isiah 9:4
    "For as in the day of Midian’s defeat,
    you have shattered
    the yoke that burdens them,
    the bar across their shoulders,
    the rod of their oppressor."

    Then jumping over to the book of Judges, she instructs the ladies to read Judges 6:1-6
    She then begins asking the following questions about yokes and how they can be shattered based on the example of ______ & _______.

    It is quite clear to study the bible you should stay in context of the passage your are reading. This style or approach appears to be like grabbing at fortune cookies and gleaning the supposed wisdom.

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  28. Titus 3:
    1 Remind the people to be subject to rulers and authorities, to be obedient, to be ready to do whatever is GOOD, 2 to slander NO ONE, to be PEACEABLE and considerate, and to show true humility toward ALL men.

    3 At one time we too were foolish, disobedient, deceived and enslaved by all kinds of passions and pleasures. We lived in MALICE and ENVY, being hated and hating one another. 4 But when the KINDNESS and LOVE of God our Savior appeared, 5 he saved us, not because of righteous things we had done, but because of his mercy. He saved us through the washing of rebirth and renewal by the Holy Spirit, 6 whom he poured out on us generously through Jesus Christ our Savior, 7 so that, having been justified by his grace, we might become heirs having the hope of eternal life. 8 This is a trustworthy saying. And I want you to stress these things, so that those who have trusted in God may be careful to DEVOTE THEMSELVES TO DOING WHAT IS GOOD. These things are excellent and profitable for everyone.

    9 But AVOID FOOLISH CONTROVERSIES and genealogies and arguments and quarrels about the law, because these are unprofitable and useless. 10 Warn a divisive person once, and then warn him a second time. After that, have nothing to do with him. 11 You may be sure that such a man is warped and sinful; he is self-condemned."

    Questions we should each ask ourselves, examining our own hearts before the Lord, prior to being so daring to devote ourselves to judging others - whomever they may be:

    1. How many people have I lead to the Lord this month, the past 3 months, the past year - in comparison to the number of people I have judged?

    2. How any hours have I spent in prayer, confessing my own sins (which, when closely examined, I find to be so many that I don't have time to devote to judging others), in comparison to the hours I've devoted to picking others apart?

    3. How often am I "taking captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ," in comparison to how often I am taking captive the thoughts of others - no matter who they are.

    4. How many hours have I devoted to ministering to women in real-life bondage circumstances who need to know Christ, His redeeming love, and the principles and promises of God's Word in comparison to the hours I've devoted to adding to another's bondage?

    There are many such questions we can ask ourselves as we "examine" our own hearts, our own motives, our own thoughts, our own decisions, our own actions to truthfully conclude whether they be from our flesh or from the Spirit living within us.

    When we truly, actually begin to "take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ" we truly, actually find ourselves grossly wanting (lacking) and in need of "being transformed by the renewing of [our] mind," rather than striving to renew others' minds.

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  29. Dear Anonymous - Please refer to our "Rules For Posting" for my answer.

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  30. Dear Sola Sisters,

    Like you said "alittle truth mixed with lies is dangerous". I have read some of the things that you quote as "mistruth" that Beth teaches, and it was not taught as you say it was. This to me is very sad because though you say you serve God, you slander your sister and bring shame to the name of Christ because of disunity. Did you go to your sister and confront her about it? :)

    It is lovely that you can point out all of Beth's flaws. Is it not wonderful that God uses us even in our inperfection and weakness to glorify Himself?

    By the way - Is it more important to be a Berean or a Christ follower - The imaturity on this site has again turned me away from "Berean's" all over again - you guys can be almost cult-like. its scary

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  31. Anonymous - Please refer to the rules for posting. If you are unable or unwilling to engage with the ideas presented in the post, please refrain from posting.

    For the record, as a new Christian, I attended a number of Beth Moore Bible studies. She does teach, as Lisa Nunley's guest article states, that Christians can come under generational curses. This is unbiblical teaching, and leads to the same kind of curse-finding-curse-breaking bondage found among pagans. I do not think Beth Moore is ill intentioned; however, her bad theology keeps Christians in bondage.

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  32. Dear Solas,
    Thank you for posting this. I'm sure it has come at great cost..and enemies abound within and without.
    I went to a study a few years ago fr the"Breaking free" series..and I could'nt quite put my finger on it but I had a deep check in my spirit about the video series. Moore may have 'good'intentions but is treading into an area of 'teaching foundations' without having proper mortar at all.. and using flattery to entice folks to listen. The only hope is that she can be corrected instead by the Lord before anyone gets hurt or swayed onto a path or thought of building something that will NOT survive long in the storms-soon coming...unless the Lord builds the house..

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